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03 August 2008 @ 05:17 pm
Breaking Dawn: Not Epic Win, Not Epic Fail; Just Right  

The time has come to express everything Breaking Dawn related. So now I say...

MASSIVE SPOILERS BEHIND THE CUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You have been warned...


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Wilfamywillow_lives on August 5th, 2008 12:47 am (UTC)
I just want to say thank you. I have gotten so irritated lately at all the bashing. I actually dropped the community 'twilight addict' from my page because of all the negativity.

I have read all of the bad "they have a baby" comments to the "jake is a pedophile" comments to everything else. It has given me reservations about reading the book. Thanks to you and a few others, now I can read it next week and just enjoy it.

I like Jacob. I always have, so the idea of reading his POV is awesome to me. I don't like that Alice leaves because after Bella and Edward, she is my favorite character. But I am excited now just to see how it all plays out.

I am rambling...lost my train of thought. The point was simply: THANK YOU for writing such an awesome review. This series means a lot to me so it is nice to see the true friends come out.

And the word "FAIL" has become one of the words that annoy the crap out of me. I didn't even understand it at first because they way people use it makes no sense to me. But I am older and believe in such things like grammar. LOL
anna_montana on August 5th, 2008 12:50 am (UTC)
This review was amazing. And most of the things I completely agree with you about. For instance, this book was most definitely NOT about Bella and Edward... it was all Bella. And I love Bella, always have, always will. She's awesomeness. I love, love, love(!) Renesmee(minus her name, it's bad). But I feel like there was something missing. I agree that the story is about Bella and her unconditional love for her daughter, but for some reason I didn't feel that from Edward. Perhaps it was just because it was from Bellas point of view, but she felt more like Jacobs then Edwards, and that disturbed me a little. I wish there had been more Alice and Jasper, I absolutely adore them. However, I did love the scenes between Jasper and Bella, hilarious. I enjoyed the book, not my favorite, but I defintiely didn't hate it. But I really missed the Edward and Bella from the other 3 books. Anyway, great review! I loved reading it.
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candy_003candy_003 on August 5th, 2008 01:41 am (UTC)
I think the reason everyone is so attracted to Renesmee is because she really is pure of heart and loves unconditionally...? I don't know, that's what I got from it, though I might be completely wrong...
kamiikiteirukamiikiteiru on August 5th, 2008 03:02 am (UTC)
Hear hear! You said this perfectly. Thank you for putting into words what so many of us think. :)
Nicole: twi; breaking dawnspread_the_fun on August 5th, 2008 03:11 am (UTC)
Yay! Seeing positive reviews on my friendslist makes me happy, especially after seeing all the negative ones.

Anyways, I'm falling asleep and I'm not supposed to spaz about BD until my friend finishes (it's kind of our thing when it comes to Twilight now, we squeal about everything to eachother before anyone else, so pretend I was never here)...so just some random things:

I thought it was kind of weird that she'd name her daughted Renesmee, when she doesn't even like her name. At least Isabella is normal. Carlie would've been a less awkward first name.

And, I think another reason people didn't like it might be the fact that they think Edward and Bella are completely out of character (which always annoys me, it's SMeyer's book and her characters, however she writes them is in character), especially in the middle. But I think part of the reason they come across so differently is because we're seeing them from a completely different perspective. Of course they're going to seem different when we're seeing them from someone else's eyes. Jacob has a completely different mind than Bella does, he's going to make the situation out in a different way then we would've expected or how we think it should be.

And everyone hated Edward for a while :( Poor thing, I never hated him, I completely understood where he was coming from. He can't live without Bella, even if she's giving him a child. He thinks she's going to die, and not only that, he thinks she's dying for a monster. He probably assumes it will behave similarly to the immortal children, not like the cute little Nessie they got.

And he's just a little naive, like always. I think he thinks that Bella just wants a baby, and doesn't understand that it's not just any baby she wants, it's his baby, the baby she already has. Hence him trying to get Jake to talk to her. Plus he's going a bit crazy, isn't he? Bella's dying, right in front of him, and there's absolutely nothing he can do. And on top of that, it's over something he caused. That'd screw up anyone's head.

OH, also, I'm kind of glad she didn't have any really smutty scenes. I have no problem sticking to my fics for that. My mom listens to this on audiobooks, and it'd be beyond awkward if I we had to listen to that in the car.
(Anonymous) on August 5th, 2008 03:38 am (UTC)
I was talking (almost fighting) with a friend of mine who didn't like the book that much, and i told her that the people who didn't like it, it was because they could not understand it!! As you said... When I read this I was asking myself if you were reading my mind, and my friend was in shock cause I told her all that stuff you wrote about!! LOL! And about the meaning, That this was about protecting the ones you love, (Twilight was about finding love, New Moon was about losing love, Eclipse was about choosing love; then Breaking Dawn was about protecting love)I was saying the exact same thing, cause Bella's & Edwasds story ends when they got married, of course, i will not deny it, I kindda missed it, but this book was GREAT!! And I loved the 2nd Book with Jacob's POV, it was absolutely AMAZING! All the way from the begining towards th end!! I <3 Bella, Edward, Jacob & Nessie!! SMeyer did a VAMPTASTIC Job writing it! And I personaly think that its not fair what some people of the "twiligh fandom" are doing and saying about her, and hating on her?? thats utterly ungrateful!! I do Love Her and I wish someday I would get the chand=ce to thank her for writing that saga and sharing it with us!! =]
Btw.. I loved the way you wrote the review!! =]
Alejandra BB
Lizziebreyerfest_2006 on August 5th, 2008 04:21 am (UTC)
I agree. 100%.
I only just finished it, and I am still completely thrilled with how it ended up. I don't see the point in complaining about it; it's out, we've read it. Get over it. We have fan fiction, don't we?
sunsetlove83sunsetlove83 on August 5th, 2008 04:27 am (UTC)
thank you so much for posting this.
there has been so much negativity surrounding this book and i think you did a wonderful job of reviewing it.
aaamy.: Twilight Edward/Bella kissamyweeze3 on August 5th, 2008 04:30 am (UTC)
Thank you for this review. You took the words out of my mouth. I too was shocked at the pregnancy, I too hated Jacob and now actually like him. His book was good in that it added comic relief while Bella was practically dying. And I thought the relationship of Bella and Nessie was perfect. I'm a very maternal person, although I'm 19 and don't have children but it's my dream. I don't know, I'm really glad I read this review because all the negativity was disappointing me. I was hoping to find someone to share my excitement with. I really enjoyed it and I'm glad I'm not alone.
twilightl0v3 on August 5th, 2008 06:12 am (UTC)
i totally agree with you.
breaking dawn just wasn't about edward/bella's relationship.
it was about how to protect grow and most certainly develop into something new.
things changed for the better.
and all those haters can go crawl into a little hole,
and think about the good apperciative things about this marvelous series. Breaking dawn wraped up the series and they have to understand that.
loved your review, and like you i'm a breaking dawn lover shipper !
alex_sleepsalex_sleeps on August 5th, 2008 07:10 am (UTC)
Scared Stiff
First off, I liked the book. I banned myself from my computer so that I wouldn't be spoiled or swayed by the opinions of others, before I even had a chance to create my own, and then when I come back to see what other people thought (I'm a lurker), I only find that they completely hate the book. It was sad that all that expectation and excitement and love for the Twilight saga just disappeared. I'm glad to find other people that are not as apposed to the book.

When I started reading the book I knew something was different but I could not figure out what it was. I think you explained it very well. Thanks for putting the feelings I could not explain into words. I agree with what you wrote and love many, many parts of the book. At first I thought that Bella getting pregnant and the entire express pregnancy was a little rushed but then again nothing is as expected in these books. I wasn't too fond of Nessie at the beginning but she grew on me (it is her gift after all.) I'm so glad I read this. Thanks again. I was so scared I was the only person in the planet that liked the book.
(Anonymous) on August 5th, 2008 07:57 am (UTC)
I finished BD about 3am this morning so I'm still kind of processing it. I'm really just like 'wow'. What you've said though has kind of helped me get my head around everything that happened. I don't hate the book, there were bits I loved and bits I think could have been done a bit differently. It's mostly getting my head around the fact that they had a BABY for crying out loud! their relationship has changed so much, matured i guess, since the first book, it's just a bit hard to comprehend. but after all of that I think I did actually like it. ohh and i agree, Renesmee? i liked how she was with edward from the beginning, and also how when she becomes a vampire her desire for edward overcomes all her other feelings. I think I agree with you now about SMeyer doing this for herself, not for anyone else's opinion. so thanks for that :) ahh i can't believe it's over! :)
Stephanie Says: Edward holding Bellastrokesstarwars on August 5th, 2008 09:41 am (UTC)
Ditto. I did read the 14 chapters like on the day before BD was released and when I was reading Jacob's POV I didn't like what I was reading, mostly because of Bella's pain. And yeah I hated when Edward called Nessie a thing. I was like "Awww" and teared a little when Edward realized he could read Nessie's mind and how she loved Bella, her voice and Edward's voice. It was so sweet. And when she talked for some odd reason I imagined her voice would sound like Bonnie Blue's (Scarlett's daughter) voice from Gone with the Wind. She's so cute. I dunno if you've seen that movie but it's really good. At first I didn't notice I was imagining her voice until a while later. lol. This is her. And then when I noticed I was imagining her voice I just imagined her with different clothes, bronze hair, and brown eyes (she has blue). But yeah I hate when they call it an "Epic Fail" I don't think it was and not an "Epic Win" either. But good.
Lisa: randomjasambeliever on August 5th, 2008 10:14 am (UTC)
I love positive reviews! *sigh* You basically summed up everything I adored about this book so much more eloquently than I ever could have.

My favorite moment has to be when Edward finally gets inside Bella's head:

"Now you know," I said lightly, and shrugged. "No one's ever loved anyone as much as I love you."

It gets me every time. I can't help but tear up just reading that line. <3

I really don't understand the BD hate, but I do agree if they want to hate on it, then just should just hate on the book and not the author. Stephenie does not deserve that. It's like people forget she's the one who created these characters and brought them into our lives. She can do with them as she pleases, and she shouldn't be getting trashed for that. I really have had enough of all the negativity.
rachelhecatedarkmagic on August 5th, 2008 11:00 am (UTC)
wow, i have so many things tp say, but i don't know where to start from. well, i re-read breaking dawn yesterday and just finished it, so pretty much all the points you brought up are quite fresh in my mind. i'm happy to find a fellow BD lover, because as often as you might have heard, i'm sick of the tonnes of BD bashing on my f-list.

what i can't help but to agree the most is the fact that Bella matures a lot in this book. She's not longer the teenager we know from the previous three books, not being aware of her choices and their effects. She is a mother now, a mother who would sacrifice anything to keep her child safe. Which is where all the hate comes, because it seems out of character, but in this book, the characters we are familiar with change with the situation at hand. and there are many instances where i wanted to hit Edward for doing what he did, but then again, that's the way he is and thinking back, i don't think i should blame him.

nice reading your comments, it makes me think and reflect on the book after reading it twice. thanks (: